york, upstate new york. man, parts of wisconsin, more cornfields than buildings. when i lived there. and guns were a huge part of that culture. you need to explain to people in upstate new york and in rural wisconsin and in alabama, mississippi, georgia, all the places, that what chuck schumer is saying, hey, it's a bit of an education campaign. they're not coming to take away all of your guns unless you want to have a clip that will spray bullets in rapid succession at kids over a five-second time period. >> well, that's why it's important, as andrea, the always-missing sam stein said earlier -- >> where is that guy? >> -- that joe biden is heading this. i mean, it really is -- joe biden was made for this role. he put together coalitions. he dealt with this issue. he knows law enforcement. you've got to get republican mayors involved in this thing. you do have to, you know, if you spend your time in los angeles and new york, nothing will happen. but it may be that this is one of those rare moments. mika, yo